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  1. No man knows what he owes to his parents until he comes to have children of his own

  2. April

  3. Baby

  4. Bad Girl

  5. Beauty / Beautiful / Handsome

  6. Beautiful Girl

  7. Beautiful Princess

  8. Beautiful Woman

  9. Beauty / Beautiful Princess

10. Beloved Daughter

11. Bond

12. Daddy’s Girl / Daddy’s Boy

13. Daisy

14. Daughter

15. First Born Daughter

16. Realize Your Ambitions / Embrace Your Ambition

17. Father and Daughter

18. Gea

19. Geisha

20. Ginny

21. Girl Power / Woman Power

22. God Daughter

23. Grand Daughter

24. Honor for Ancestors

25. Jinni

26. Kaili

27. Love

28. Love the Flower, Love the Pot also

29. Martial Arts Master

30. Missy

31. Mother and Daughter

32. Mother and Son

33. My Son

34. Pearl in the Palm

35. Princess

36. Pure Heart

37. Purity

38. Renni

39. Sexy

40. Strong Woman


No man knows what he owes to his parents until he comes to have children of his own

 ko wo motte shiru oya no on
No man knows what he owes to his parents until he comes to have children of his own Scroll

子を持って知る親の恩 literally translates as: Only after you have a baby, you would appreciate your parents (feel the way they do, etc).

This is a bit like the “walk a mile in another man's shoes” saying. Basically, it's about you cannot fully understand the plight of others until you experience it yourself. It also shows appreciation for the plight of parents.

This Japanese proverb can also be translated a few more ways:

No man knows what he owes to his parents till he comes to have children of his own.

One knows not what one owes to one's parents till one comes to have children of one's own.

Only after you have a baby, you will appreciate your parents or feel the way they do.

Only after becoming a parent yourself do you realize how much you owe [how indebted you are] to your own parents.


Note: Because this selection contains some special Japanese Hiragana characters, it should be written by a Japanese calligrapher.

 ài pǔ lì
April Scroll

艾譜莉 is the transliteration to Mandarin Chinese for the girl's name April.

 bǎo bao
Baby Scroll

寶寶 is how Chinese people express “baby.”

The word is composed of the same character twice, and therefore literally means “double precious” or “double treasure.”

This would be a nice wall scroll to put either inside or by the door of your baby's room (not on the door, as wall scrolls swing around wildly when hung on doors that open and close a lot).

 nyuu ji
Baby Scroll

乳児 is a common two-Kanji way to write “baby” in Japanese.

This can also be translated as “infant” or “suckling baby.”

 akan bou
Baby Scroll

赤ん坊 is one way that Japanese people express “baby.”

 furyoushoujo
Bad Girl Scroll

不良少女 is a Japanese word that means bad girl or female juvenile delinquent.

It's an unusual choice for calligraphy.

Beauty / Beautiful / Handsome

 měi
 bi
 
Beauty / Beautiful / Handsome Scroll

美 is often used to describe the beauty of a woman.

However, when applied to a man, it can mean handsome. It's also the first character in the word for “beauty salon” which you will see all over China and Japan.

This can be used as the given name for a girl (spell it or say it as “Mei” or “May”).

For a bit of trivia: The title for the “USA” in Chinese is “Mei Guo” which literally means “Beautiful Country.” This name was bestowed at a time before Chairman Mao came to power and decided that China didn't like the USA anymore (even though we fought together against the Japanese in WWII). But these days, Chinese people love Americans (but have a distaste for American politics and policy). But I digress...

美 is also how “Beautiful” is written in Japanese Kanji and Korean Hanja. 美 can also mean: very satisfactory; good; to be pleased with oneself; abbreviation for the USA; fine; handsome; admirable; madhura; sweet; and/or pleasant.


See Also:  Beautiful Woman | Beautiful Girl

Beautiful Girl

 měi lì de gū niang
Beautiful Girl Scroll

美麗的姑娘 is the best way to express “beautiful girl” in Chinese.


See Also:  Beautiful Woman | Beauty

Beautiful Princess

 měi lì de gōng zhǔ
Beautiful Princess Scroll

美麗的公主 is how to write beautiful princess in Chinese.

The first two characters mean feminine beauty or rather a way to say beautiful that only applies to women. The middle character is just a connecting character. The last two characters mean princess.


See Also:  Queen

Beautiful Woman

 měi lì de nǚ rén
Beautiful Woman Scroll

美麗的女人 is the best and most polite way to express “beautiful woman” in Chinese.

Note: Some people may like the simple 2-character 美女 way to express this, but there are some bad connotations with that, so better to stay with this longer and more respectful title.


See Also:  Beautiful Girl | Beauty

Beauty / Beautiful Princess

 yuàn
 hime / haru
 
Beauty / Beautiful Princess Scroll

媛 means, a beauty; beautiful (woman); princess; a young lady of noble birth; girl; small & lovely.

媛 is used a bit more commonly in Chinese than in Japanese.


Note: This can be the female given name "Hime" in Japanese.

Beloved Daughter

 ai jou
Beloved Daughter Scroll

愛嬢 means “beloved daughter” in Japanese Kanji.

 bàn
 kizuna
 
Bond Scroll

This Kanji represents a bond, as in the bond between mother and daughter, father and son, family ties, or a family bond.

絆 is the kind of character that says, no matter what happens (difficult times), we have this bond that cannot be broken.

If you go to the Japanese dictionary, the definition is the bonds (between people), (emotional) ties, relationship, connection, link, tether, or fetters.



Read this before ordering...
This Kanji is best if your audience is Japanese. While this is also a Chinese character, it has a completely different meaning in Chinese (it means to hinder or stumble in Chinese). it’s a very rare character in Korean Hanja but does mean bond in Korean (used in Korean words for certain kinds of glue and sticking plaster).

Daddy’s Girl / Daddy’s Boy

 otousanko
Daddy’s Girl / Daddy’s Boy Scroll

This modern Japanese word means Daddy’s Girl or Daddy’s Boy.

It refers to a child strongly attached to his/her father.


Note: Because this selection contains some special Japanese Hiragana characters, it should be written by a Japanese calligrapher.

Daisy

The yellow flower

 chú jú
 hinagiku
Daisy Scroll

雛菊 is how they write “daisy” in Chinese and Japanese.

This is a good choice if you love daisies, or your name is Daisy. If you translated it directly, this means “chick flower” (as in baby chickens) or “baby chrysanthemum.” Of course, when an Asian person reads this, they just think “daisy.”

If you're into botany, this title represents “Bellis Perennis.”

In Japanese, this can be the female given name, Hinagiku.

 gu jo
Daughter Scroll

愚女 is a humble title for “daughter” in Japanese.

If you literally define each character, you get “silly girl” or “foolish woman.”

First Born Daughter

 zhǎng
 choujo
First Born Daughter Scroll

長女 is a Chinese, old Korean Hanja, and Japanese Kanji title for eldest daughter or firstborn daughter.

This can also be a given name “Osame” in Japanese.

Realize Your Ambitions / Embrace Your Ambition

 taishi wo Idaku
Realize Your Ambitions / Embrace Your Ambition Scroll

大志を抱く is a Japanese proverb that suggests you should embrace, pursue, and realize your ambitions.

The first part means ambitions or aspirations.

The last part means to embrace or to hold in your arms.

Here's the character breakdown:
大志 (taishi) ambition; aspiration.
を (o) particle
抱く (idaku) to embrace; to hold in the arms (e.g. a baby); to hug; to harbor/harbour; to bear (e.g., a grudge); to entertain (e.g., suspicion); to sleep with; to sit on eggs.


Note: Because this selection contains some special Japanese Hiragana characters, it should be written by a Japanese calligrapher.

Father and Daughter

 fù nǚ
Father and Daughter Scroll

父女 is a title for “father and daughter” in Chinese.

Note: 父女 is an unusual word for a calligraphy wall scroll.

Father and Daughter

 chichi musume
Father and Daughter Scroll

父娘 is a title for “father and daughter” in Japanese Kanji.

 jí yǎ
Gea Scroll

吉雅 is the transliteration to Mandarin Chinese for the two-syllable name Gea in feminine form.

If you are a girl, this is probably the one you want.

 yún zhě
 geisha
Geisha Scroll

芸者 is the real basis for the way we spell geisha.

However, there are many more ways to refer to a woman that fills the role that westerners think of when they hear the word geisha.

In Japanese, these characters literally mean “artful person.” But in English, it might be better translated as “a person (woman) highly trained/accomplished in the arts.”

However, my Japanese dictionary says “a singing and dancing girl.”

Many will argue as to whether “geisha” = “prostitute” or not. My Japanese friends seem to have the opinion that a geisha is so highly trained in the art of playing musical instruments and dancing that the fact she might also be a prostitute is secondary to her performance on stage.

芸者 is a “Japanese only” term, they use a slightly different first character to express “geisha” in Chinese. Since this is a Japanese term, I have not included the Chinese version.

 jīn nī
Ginny Scroll

金妮 is the transliteration to Mandarin Chinese for the name Ginny.

This means “golden girl,” or “girl of gold” in Chinese.

Girl Power / Woman Power

 nǚ lì
 onna ryoku
Girl Power / Woman Power Scroll

This can be read as “girl power,” “woman power,” “women empowerment” or “female strength.”

女力 is kind of a strange or unofficial title in Chinese and Japanese. At least, it's not common for a wall scroll.

This should be “onna ryoku” in Japanese but I found some who suggest it should be “me riki.”

God Daughter

 jiào nǚ
God Daughter Scroll

教女 is the title for a female child, which you have a sworn duty to raise should the girl's parents die.

The second character specifically designates that we are talking about a female child, thus the title God Daughter.


See Also:  Family

Grand Daughter

 mago musume
Grand Daughter Scroll

孫娘 is granddaughter in Japanese Kanji.


See Also:  Family

Honor for Ancestors

 zǔ xiān chóng bài
 so sen suu hai
Honor for Ancestors Scroll

祖先崇拜 means “Appreciation and honor of your ancestors.”

This can refer to anyone from your grandparents and beyond.

The first two characters mean ancestors or forefathers.

The last two characters mean worship, adore/adoration, or admiration.

This is the kind of wall scroll that a filial son or daughter in China or Japan would hang to honor their ancestors who paved the way for the new generation.


拝Japanese use a slight variation on the last Kanji. If you want this specifically Japanese version, just click on the Kanji image to the right (instead of the button above). Note that Japanese people would easily be able to identify the original Chinese form of that Kanji anyway.

They also have a similar phrase in old Korean but the first two characters are reversed - just let me know if you want that version when you place your order.

Jinni

Golden Girl

 jīn nī
Jinni Scroll

金妮 is a transliteration to Mandarin Chinese for the name Jinni.

This means “golden girl” or “girl of gold” in Chinese.

This is the special name I made up and chose for my third daughter. There is also another, more common way to transliterate this name which is 吉尼 instead of 金妮.

 kǎi lǐ
Kaili Scroll

This is a common transliteration to Mandarin Chinese for the name Kaili.

It's also the name of Kaili city in Guizhou province.

I named my first daughter Kaili after visiting Kaili city and finding very friendly people there. I think this is a great English-Chinese baby name, as it is pronounceable in both languages, and the name works as a given name in both languages as well.

 ài
 ai
 
Love Scroll

愛 universally means love in Chinese, Japanese Kanji, old Korean Hanja, and old Vietnamese.

愛 is one of the most recognized Asian symbols in the West and is often seen on tee shirts, coffee mugs, tattoos, and more.

愛 can also be defined as affection, to be fond of, to like, or to be keen on. It often refers to romantic love, and is found in phrases like, “I love you.” But in Chinese, one can say, “I love that movie” using this character as well.

This can also be a pet name or part of a pet name in the way we say “dear” or “honey” in English.

This can be a girl’s name “Ai” in both Chinese and Japanese.


More about this character:

This may be hard to imagine as a westerner but the strokes at the top of this love character symbolize family & marriage.

心The symbol in the middle is a little easier to identify. It is the character for "heart" (it can also mean "mind" or "soul"). I guess you can say that no matter if you are from the East or the West, you must put your heart into your love.

友The strokes at the bottom create a modified character that means "friend" or "friendship."

I suppose you could say that the full meaning of this love character is to love your family, spouse, and friends with all of your heart, since all three elements exist in this character.


See Also:  I Love You | Caring | Benevolence | Friendliness | Double Happiness Happy Marriage Wall Scroll

Love the Flower, Love the Pot also

Love Me, Love My Dog

 ài huā lián pén ài ài nǚ téng nǚ xù
Love the Flower, Love the Pot also Scroll

This proverb, 爱花连盆爱爱女疼女婿, literally translates as “If one loves a flower, [one will] love its pot; [if one really] loves [one's] daughter, [one will also] love [one's] son-in-law.”

Figuratively, is similar to the English proverbs:
Love me, love my dog.
Love for a person extends even to the crows on his roof.

Martial Arts Master

 wǔ yún zhě
 bugeisha
Martial Arts Master Scroll

武芸者 is the Japanese Kanji title for “Martial Arts Master.” It suggests that you have reached at least the level of black belt and are probably to the level where you are ready to become an instructor.

Please consider carefully where you stand before ordering this phrase on a wall scroll. If you are not a master, this will make you look a bit foolish.

If you want to get this as a gift for your master at the dojo. Try to discreetly make sure this term is used in your school. Different schools and styles of Japanese martial arts use different terms. You may notice in the Romaji that the last two characters romanize as “geisha” which means “person skilled in arts” (what a geisha girl really is). The title here has the character for “martial,” “warrior,” and/or “military” in front of it. Therefore the literal translation is “martial art person.”

These Kanji are valid Chinese characters and Korean Hanja, but this title does not really make sense in Chinese and is not often used in Korean, though a Chinese or Korean would be able to guess the meaning by looking at the first and last characters.

 xiǎo jiě
Missy Scroll

小姐 is the translation to Modern Mandarin Chinese for the name Missy.

This means “Miss” or “little girl.”

Mother and Daughter

 mǔ nǚ
Mother and Daughter Scroll

母女 means “mother and daughter” as a unit or as if mother and daughter are a whole together.

母女 is an unusual selection for a calligraphy wall scroll and can be read in many different ways. Your native Asian friends might wonder what you are trying to say. They might even read it as “a mother and daughter without a dad.”

This entry was added to our database for a customer's special request. It has the same meaning in Chinese Characters and Korean Hanja.


See Also:  Mother and Son

Mother and Daughter

 haha musume
Mother and Daughter Scroll

母娘 means “mother and daughter” in Japanese Kanji.

母娘 is an unusual selection for a calligraphy wall scroll and can be read in many different ways. Your native Japanese friends might wonder what you are trying to say.


Note: This will not make sense in Chinese.


See Also:  Mother and Son

Mother and Son

 mǔ zǐ
 bo shi
Mother and Son Scroll

母子 simply means “mother and son,” or the essence of the relationship and bond between mother and son.

母子 is really a single word that expresses this idea (showing how important or significant this bond is).

This is not the most common choice for a wall scroll, it is acceptable if you feel this term is important to you.


See Also:  Mother and Daughter

 wǒ ér
My Son Scroll

我兒 means “my son” in Chinese.

The first character means my, mine, me, or I (it's possessive in this case).

The second character means son (or baby).

Note: 我兒 is a very unusual title for a calligraphy wall scroll.

Pearl in the Palm

 zhǎng shàng míng zhū
Pearl in the Palm Scroll

掌上明珠 is a Chinese proverb that literally means “a pearl in the palm.”

Figuratively, this is used to describe, or as a title for, a beloved person. This can especially apply to a daughter.

 oujo
Princess Scroll

王女 is a Japanese title that means princess.

Pure Heart

Pure and Innocent

 chún qíng
 jun jou
Pure Heart Scroll

純情 means “Pure Heart” in Chinese, Japanese Kanji, and old Korean Hanja.

It's used to reflect the ideas of being “pure and innocent.”

Depending on the context in which this title is used, it can relay “self-sacrificing devotion” or, in some cases, “naïveté.”
This would be in the same way we might refer to a young girl giving her lunch money to a beggar on the street. She has a pure and precious heart but perhaps is also a bit naive.

Purity

Clean and Pure

 jìng
 jou
 
Purity Scroll

淨 is the most simple way to express purity or cleanliness in Chinese, Japanese Kanji, and old Korean Hanja.

As a single character, the concept is broad: This can be a verb (the act of cleaning, purifying, or cleansing) but it can also be the state of being clean, pure, and chaste. In some contexts, it can be a place to clean (like a bathing room for the soul in a Buddhist context). In Japanese, this can be a female given name “Jou” or “jō” (the Japanese equivalent of the English girl's name “Chastity”).

 rén nī
Renni Scroll

This is a name Renni in Mandarin Chinese. The name literally means “benevolent girl” in Chinese.

I kind of made up this name when my second daughter was born. The idea came for a feeling I got after performing a benevolent act for a poor family in Southern China. I want my daughter to follow that mode, and experience the same feeling one can only experience by doing benevolent acts.

Sexy

sex appeal / eroticism / sexuality

 xing gǎn
 seikan
Sexy Scroll

性感 is the closest word in Chinese that matches how we use “sexy” in English.

In China, this could be used to refer to a hot girl or a hot car.

In Japanese, this is translated as “sexual feeling.”

性感 is not really appropriate for a wall scroll.

Strong Woman

 nǚ qiáng rén
Strong Woman Scroll

女強人 is the best way to say “strong woman” or “strong and independent woman” in Chinese.

Grammar in China is a bit different, so these three characters literally read as “female strength person” or “woman strong person.” This might sound funny in English, but this is a natural-sounding title in Chinese.




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The following table may be helpful for those studying Chinese or Japanese...

Title CharactersRomaji (Romanized Japanese)Various forms of Romanized Chinese
No man knows what he owes to his parents until he comes to have children of his own子を持って知る親の恩ko wo motte shiru oya no on
kowomotteshiruoyanoon
April艾譜莉
艾谱莉
ài pǔ lì
ai4 pu3 li4
ai pu li
aipuli
ai p`u li
aipuli
ai pu li
Baby寶寶
宝宝
bǎo bao / bao3 bao / bao bao / baobaopao pao / paopao
Baby乳児nyuu ji / nyuuji / nyu ji
Baby赤ん坊akan bou / akanbou / akan bo
Bad Girl不良少女furyoushoujo
furyoshojo
Beauty
Beautiful
Handsome
biměi / mei3 / mei
Beautiful Girl美麗的姑娘
美丽的姑娘
měi lì de gū niang
mei3 li4 de gu1 niang
mei li de gu niang
meilideguniang
mei li te ku niang
meilitekuniang
Beautiful Princess美麗的公主
美丽的公主
měi lì de gōng zhǔ
mei3 li4 de gong1 zhu3
mei li de gong zhu
meilidegongzhu
mei li te kung chu
meilitekungchu
Beautiful Woman美麗的女人
美丽的女人
měi lì de nǚ rén
mei3 li4 de nv3 ren2
mei li de nv ren
meilidenvren
mei li te nü jen
meilitenüjen
Beauty
Beautiful Princess
hime / haruyuàn / yuan4 / yuanyüan
Beloved Daughter愛嬢ai jou / aijou / ai jo
Bond
kizunabàn / ban4 / banpan
Daddy’s Girl
Daddy’s Boy
お父さん子otousanko / otosanko
Daisy雛菊
雏菊
hinagikuchú jú / chu2 ju2 / chu ju / chujuch`u chü / chuchü / chu chü
Daughter愚女gu jo / gujo
First Born Daughter長女
长女
choujo / chojozhǎng
zhang3 nu:3
zhang nu:
zhangnu:
chang nü
changnü
Realize Your Ambitions
Embrace Your Ambition
大志を抱くtaishi wo Idaku
taishiwoIdaku
Father and Daughter父女fù nǚ / fu4 nv3 / fu nv / funvfu nü / funü
Father and Daughter父娘chichi musume
chichimusume
Gea吉雅jí yǎ / ji2 ya3 / ji ya / jiyachi ya / chiya
Geisha芸者geishayún zhě / yun2 zhe3 / yun zhe / yunzheyün che / yünche
Ginny金妮jīn nī / jin1 ni1 / jin ni / jinnichin ni / chinni
Girl Power
Woman Power
女力onna ryoku / onnaryokunǚ lì / nv3 li4 / nv li / nvlinü li / nüli
God Daughter教女jiào nǚ / jiao4 nv3 / jiao nv / jiaonvchiao nü / chiaonü
Grand Daughter孫娘mago musume
magomusume
Honor for Ancestors祖先崇拜
祖先崇拜 / 祖先崇拝
so sen suu hai
sosensuuhai
so sen su hai
zǔ xiān chóng bài
zu3 xian1 chong2 bai4
zu xian chong bai
zuxianchongbai
tsu hsien ch`ung pai
tsuhsienchungpai
tsu hsien chung pai
Jinni金妮jīn nī / jin1 ni1 / jin ni / jinnichin ni / chinni
Kaili凱里
凯里
kǎi lǐ / kai3 li3 / kai li / kailik`ai li / kaili / kai li
Love
aiài / ai4 / ai
Love the Flower, Love the Pot also愛花連盆愛愛女疼女婿
爱花连盆爱爱女疼女婿
ài huā lián pén ài ài nǚ téng nǚ xù
ai4 hua1 lian2 pen2 ai4 ai4 nv3 teng2 nv3 xu4
ai hua lian pen ai ai nv teng nv xu
ai hua lien p`en ai ai nü t`eng nü hsü
ai hua lien pen ai ai nü teng nü hsü
Martial Arts Master武芸者bugeishawǔ yún zhě
wu3 yun2 zhe3
wu yun zhe
wuyunzhe
wu yün che
wuyünche
Missy小姐xiǎo jiě / xiao3 jie3 / xiao jie / xiaojiehsiao chieh / hsiaochieh
Mother and Daughter母女mǔ nǚ / mu3 nv3 / mu nv / munvmu nü / munü
Mother and Daughter母娘haha musume
hahamusume
Mother and Son母子bo shi / boshimǔ zǐ / mu3 zi3 / mu zi / muzimu tzu / mutzu
My Son我兒
我儿
wǒ ér / wo3 er2 / wo er / woerwo erh / woerh
Pearl in the Palm掌上明珠zhǎng shàng míng zhū
zhang3 shang4 ming2 zhu1
zhang shang ming zhu
zhangshangmingzhu
chang shang ming chu
changshangmingchu
Princess王女oujo / ojo
Pure Heart純情
纯情
jun jou / junjou / jun jochún qíng
chun2 qing2
chun qing
chunqing
ch`un ch`ing
chunching
chun ching
Purityjou / jojìng / jing4 / jingching
Renni仁妮rén nī / ren2 ni1 / ren ni / rennijen ni / jenni
Sexy性感seikanxing gǎn / xing gan3 / xing gan / xingganhsing kan / hsingkan
Strong Woman女強人
女强人
nǚ qiáng rén
nv3 qiang2 ren2
nv qiang ren
nvqiangren
nü ch`iang jen
nüchiangjen
nü chiang jen
In some entries above you will see that characters have different versions above and below a line.
In these cases, the characters above the line are Traditional Chinese, while the ones below are Simplified Chinese.


All of our calligraphy wall scrolls are handmade.

When the calligrapher finishes creating your artwork, it is taken to my art mounting workshop in Beijing where a wall scroll is made by hand from a combination of silk, rice paper, and wood.
After we create your wall scroll, it takes at least two weeks for air mail delivery from Beijing to you.

Allow a few weeks for delivery. Rush service speeds it up by a week or two for $10!

When you select your calligraphy, you'll be taken to another page where you can choose various custom options.


A nice Chinese calligraphy wall scroll

The wall scroll that Sandy is holding in this picture is a "large size"
single-character wall scroll.
We also offer custom wall scrolls in small, medium, and an even-larger jumbo size.

A professional Chinese Calligrapher

Professional calligraphers are getting to be hard to find these days.
Instead of drawing characters by hand, the new generation in China merely type roman letters into their computer keyboards and pick the character that they want from a list that pops up.

There is some fear that true Chinese calligraphy may become a lost art in the coming years. Many art institutes in China are now promoting calligraphy programs in hopes of keeping this unique form of art alive.

Trying to learn Chinese calligrapher - a futile effort

Even with the teachings of a top-ranked calligrapher in China, my calligraphy will never be good enough to sell. I will leave that to the experts.

A high-ranked Chinese master calligrapher that I met in Zhongwei

The same calligrapher who gave me those lessons also attracted a crowd of thousands and a TV crew as he created characters over 6-feet high. He happens to be ranked as one of the top 100 calligraphers in all of China. He is also one of very few that would actually attempt such a feat.